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12:39 Roundtable Ines Rabadan
experiment + documentary at the same time

inspiré   du karaoke philosophique de lionel lesire : : seen at jonctions 4, an   installation in which people could talk like philosophers

i   did the interviews but some of them don't have a contract, they didn't   wanted to be filmed. i wanted to have portraits of rich women and   cleaning women. somehow the cleaning women have to be transparent. and   cleaning ladies didn't really want to talk about their jobs. so it's  the  voices of the women.

Some of cleaning women did not want to be filmed, so this was a solution

Ines is talking about her film, Karaoke
I   am that woman and it's vry funny cause i met the boss first. and she   said oh she's very shy she won't want to be in and then she did and   called me and said she wanted in and she hadsomething to say. Sharing   the idea with me it strenghtened th possibility to invent sth new, a   method. "I just don't do it and see what happens". 
That's great

femke : heads/hands are occupied. even when we don't do it, we think about it

all   this intelligence of women spent taking care of the house, of   everything, is still not share (the mental part of it). i'm looking for   tools to get rid of this, to change things. the fact of having  somebody  to tell all this for one of the cleaning lady was important to  her.

Marie-Françoise : 
Reminds   me of unite de lieu et de temps, so dfficult to show what is the   private sphere, inside of the house. Struck by the fact that you did  it,  even if you explained you had no other way to do it.
In fact it is exactly what it is : Nobody sees the domestic sphere.
Your film shows domestic sphere so beautifully, you can imagine it, all women know it, all man know it as well.
U think it's a very very feminist film.

Julia:    I was  actually fascinated and i was wondering why you did all the   women. but even without that you were right to do it. It is the same   face, the same woma. Very  strong  difference to speak about the origin   of the women, in the same  gender  issue. It has to be taken into   account. There are strong differences and we can see it's not only men   and women but also between women. Women dominating aother women. And i   liked to see them all through one face, your face.

Femke   : for us the connexion was not just the but also this question of care   which still very often comes up. But if you talk about tech   infrastrucutre we usually share this task, but the stress and repettion   of tasks is similar to housework. there's differences and connexions  and  this is what we're talking about.

xx: women decided to not want their faces to be shown, but they showed their hands

Ines:   they They did agree to show their hands, I couldn't say why, byt yes,   they did agree. i wanted to show the hands, also the women you see them   all 3 in the movie. I have been asked why I showed them, i wanted to  pay  a tribute to be in the movie and tell me their stories.

I wanted to pay a tribute to them telling them their stories.
I   had the feelinf that playing al lthe women could give sth interesting   about representation. what a bourgeoise looks like, what a polish woman   looks like, ect.  It is also about the speech, how iti is   articulated.how you articulate your thoughts, show the construction of   the movie. it corresponds to my hybrid background. one of my  grandmother  had a maid at home (a bell to call her) and my other  grandmother was a  maid from age 6
there's   also the accents, i wanted to go back to them at the end at the film.   Through the hands I said : ok, she is there, these are the hands that   havebeen doing the cleaning.

Peter:   remark a few things we were talking about yesterday. We had a few   presentations of people and server based projects, they were all asked   the same questions, one of them was : what is the gender of the server,   we tried to evoke something. There were few comparisons between home  and  server. Marthe went into relationship house-server, and  responsability  of maintaining the place, the server and the house. It  is been taken  care of by yourself and other people. Joy in making your  place your own  place, but it can also be a nuisance, repetitive tasks,  resources the  people you trust, etc..  How does the service deal with  that all. The  law was in mosrt cases perceived as justice. But there  was also a  different approach : the only law is gravity. the physical  laws, tc.  There is a whole dynamic of the home of the server, many  types and ways  of dealing with these issues. You make us think how this  service is  organised. It helps us create something out of this. It was  a beautiful  symbolic moment you showed. The house is doing sth to the  people who are  doing sth to the house.

Ines : thank you.

Marthe:   Im very curous, because 2 people who are maintaining my server space,   have their hands here. I never met them, but they're here. Job   shadowing, I'm a volonteer for next year, for someone who is managing a   digital one, to job shadow. Someone who is helping me in the house,  the  law helps me in this. In belgium law allows you to substract in  taxes  house help. I m glad soemeone is helping me in my house, but I  would be  happy to help in digital server.

Femke:   I think we're all very happy to have seen your film. Ines wll have to   go for take care of some things (laughs in the audience) but then she   will come back and participate in the discussion later. But I think the   film will stay with us.
12:30 Observations after Ines' film

Caretaking   was an important thread running through these past three days. Hands   versus heads that are occupied. Infrastructure versus   content/expression. In the film one of the "femmes domestique" started   inventing new methods for herself, how to stop being consumed only by   infrastructure and living also for herself, starting to think about  what  she would like for herself. Talking about this reinventing by  talking  about it to others was important to her. In a sense this is  what we're  doing these four days, talking about new methods of escaping  being  consumed by serving and find ways to spend time on thinking  about what  we are serving, for who, with who and why... 

Household   work and maintaining technical infrastructure have this caretaking in   comon. The repetitiveness of tasks. Piramid scheme? Division of tasks,   sharing tasks together works great for those who can chose to work and   share the load of housework with a "femme de menage", but the woman   doing the housework for others usually also does all the work in her  own  home. She has nobody to share her tasks with. Does the comparison  with  maintaining for instance servers work in this context too?  Companies  like Google have huge teams of sysadmins/developers worknig  on the  caretaking but small initiatives have nobody to share these  tasks with  and are left with very little time to spend on other sides  of their  work, expression/content/context/networking with   sisterorganisations/developing together with those they want to develop   for (risk of simply developing for your own needs and projecting those   needs on others).

Maslov   -> to be able to spend time on 'self realisation' you need to   fulfill basic needs first such as housing, nutrition, health, safety,   social network, etc. before you can spend time on developing yourself   (or your organisation).

These   four days we are being served, fed, housed, taken care of, so we can   focus on the self realisation part of life as collectives, as   individuals, extremely privileged situation.

Are   sysadmins the cleaning ladies of the digital realm? There is  definately  a status difference and having root or the key to someones  house is not  the same power, ppl are not relying on you for similar  services. But  it's all about maintainance of infrastructures. In a way  it is seen as  more empowering to be able to maintain digital  infrastructures as  opposed to maintinging physical and domestic ones.  Software development  is another story, here the developer is working on  infrastructures that  shape parts of our lives. It's not a super  usefull analogy perhaps...  but then again, these maintainance tasks  make it possible for others to  dedicate themselves to "more interesting  things" as one of the ladies in  Ines' movie said. 

12:52 : break
13:09: re-boot

Femke:   when we started preparing this event, we wanted to see the constant   server physically. But it was complicated: permssions, it is a  sunday...  will be complicated. So we asked them to ocme and present it  to us. In  mean time they have moved to other datacenter, they show us  their new  images of theirs servers.
All2all   is hosting for dedicated servers, virtual servers and many activist   project in brussels are hosted with them. We are not the only ones   wanting to know where our servers are.

So here is the video showing what we saw that day.

Jens Ingo (all2all) : in datacenter soun is very strong, you need to wear headphones
So i did some visite of data center and had sb film it. They are all resemblng each other


access card
cage like walls
little etiquttes 
power supllies (left)
network cables (right)
colored cables
perforated metal
input output holes

[go back frames)
transfer switch
a-feed and b-fees
web interface --> reboot possibility

13:18: image with his finger showing the connections
sound (shrieking)
5 amper indication
distribution   case for each a and b feed -> 4 electropowered plugs in the ground   which are connected to board, each feed is 20 amp
power plugs on the ground

the power plugs come out of the floor
the power plugs come out of the floor
the power plugs come out of the floor
also airconditioning is arriving to cool the place
one output on the right 
the orange thing is for the fiber optics
the router constructed with Linux (not a brand or sth)
we constructed it ourselves
router software is Quagga

paper flying a la marilyn monroe in front of the ventilator's little holes lineup
thermometer for mesuring heath/cold in front of racks and also behind (hot air) of the servers
cage for fire extinguisher units (huge)
'gas fire extinguishers' the electric components wll not be touched by it when there is a fire
"get energised by DUTRY power"
if   there is a power issue on the a-feed, the b-feed comes in and htis   transfer switch does it very well, goes from a to be, then when problem   is solved, it switches back
-->>>uninterrupted power suplly
--->>less stressful for the electronical components to not stop abruptly

every month there is a test-run, a-feeds stops to check everything, also diesle for generator is refilled and checked
--> huge autonomy

Femke   : I have one question : So when you were preparing this conversation   you talked about foot prints. in what way do you have our hands on this   datacenter, where does your responsibility starts and end,.

Jens   Ingo: Demarcation line, you have to know where your responsability   stops. there is datacenter, but also the admin on backbone (? )
We have our own IP ranges, so we can also stop collaboration with the data center if it is not satisfying any more.
this is progress, when we started in 1999/2000, we were 
we were much more dependent, we did not run the router, have our own ip-addresses etc.
now we have an easier negotiation basis with the data center.
We have 7 footprints.
server rack occupies 1 footprint more or less (= 1 tile), depends on the deck of the server

unbeneath on technical floor: datacenter responsability + electric responsability
footprint = demarcation line between responsabilities
as soon as it goes into XX it's our responsibility.
meeting room: a lot of different switches of different size, like a matrix
on the matrice you have diff supplies for 
 our router is connected to meeting room, from there we can do different xxx to different supllies
demarcation line is actually around this dispatching place.

Ripe : Réseau Intenrt

They are very particular human beings, they are all male in the datacenter: technicians walking around
when   I go there, friday morning, there was auite some mouvement, auite busy   durong office hours. A lot of maintaing to do: change filters of  airco,  tests on the generators...

How many times do you go
deends, we have a lot of monitoring  disk crashing, 
we have chat hosting, servers we set up for different websites
disk on a xxxx

[missed big part here]

we have to go there to set up a new server, network issues
each connection on power supply is item, we can stop urrent and bring it back 'hard reset' this we can do from a distance
in 1 month i go 4 to 5 times
sometimes more work and go more often
we try not to go often, because it not a very pleasant place
it is not a place for human beings, really for machines

electro smog, electro magnetic field, hot air, in winter is nice, but in summer not
no chairs, no table, I have to wear headphones if I stay longer
Gabriel : wondering wht lkind of mindset you have to do all those tasks ?
As a household ? I'm thinking about this connexion to keep infrastructure and house running ? how to prioritize?

Jens: you have to start to set up utilitarian approach, most important is network connection, everything else is secondary
if I have network segment problem, in the background i have individual complaints of the costumer
it changes all the time
priorities change all the time, it depends on the type of the event
if there is no emergency, you just watch the monitoring and provide what is needed.
If you have more time, you can start to work on them.But the most important is to have all the servers up and the network.
Little   problems inside server, application issues, clients with virusses on   their computers, centralize the servers which allow access directly on   hosting account, they can set up their oown application, sometimes   malware, we have to check this, scan computers, is something very new   now

Femke : how many people are working there ?

We have sometimes stagiaries (internes) on the payrol we are three plus freelance people that come fro mtime to time.
Nicolas:   company that run the datacenters, competitive market with a lot of   offfers? Some monopoly? A lot of choice? you said they look all the   same, is it homogenous or not really ? , do they ave different   politicis, economical, ecological.

Jens:   they have different prices. On server side it could be different. We   had experiences in the past, around brussels. they mostly are on the   periphery of the city, sometimes inside, but then they are telecom   owned.
Motorways around the city, you have rigns passing, maybe changed a bit now, but it was more difficult to get them into the city.
 Different offers  are mainly diff by price. The most expensive are not necessarily the best.
f.ex.   one in Diegem which is a bigger one, one day they started to work to  do  improvements, people broke into the datacenter. How is this  possible?  This should be a protected place. We had to leave, break the  contract  through legal procedures.
You   have to sign a contract, stay as long as possible but you want ot  avoid  to be thrown out to early. The price is not necessarily a qulity  proof,  look at it from different angles: is it discrete, secure,  guards  presence, these are qulity criteria.Many are badly protected  because of  the size also.
Some of the companies have parts of the data centers they have the same access code for long time, not secure enough
It's quite expensive actually.
1 footprint is like rrenenitng an apartmentting an appartment.  (where???)
You also have bills for electricity, airconditioning.

Femke : are there groups of datacenters ? are they telecoms ?

jens:   2 types: provider independent datacenter, don't provide network   connection, only the service; up to you to contact different providers   present on the datacenter to have contract with them.
and   then there is datacenters that are tainted becaue they are telecom   owned and then you have more difficulties to have the bandwith you want  ,  you are in a dependency with the telecom provider. First we worked  with  Alcatel which was sold to KPN then to Mobistar datacenter so we  ended  up dependent by them and we didn't want that.
In   upload direction there has been much less bandwith than was agreed on   we measured it, had an argument and removed all the servers.
You   have to have a lorry to transport them from one DC to the other.  Moving  is really difficult. It is a real dependency reltion of the DC  is not  neutral.
A lot of work to reconnect and renumber them.
If DC is only concentrating on DC work, it is more free,
On   the other hand you can always have a DC in your attick but if you   really want to do it, then it is almost impossible in an appartment   building or a house. Lots of factors could compromise your network.   Fire, dust, problems, interferences with metal structures etc. 
ex. fire in kitchen.... dust problems, people living in the house (somebody can become crazy)
If people live in the house they can become crazy and attack the server, etc (laughs)

Q: How much electricity do you need?

In the end it's sth like 1000 euros per month.
There's really a lot of power supliers to run this.
But they're becoming more and more economical.
less and less power demanding
you have same or higher computer capacity today with less electricity demands than before
let   me think how much... Frederic. What's the average electricity cost ?   1500 electricity bill per month. they count the use of the kilowatt   hours for use and send an invoice.

Ecological and economical reasons. Actually the economical reasons brought about ecological reasons.
Maria: is there a cleaning service in DC?
Jens: yes, oly men doing it

Q: Are there women?
Jens: yes, but very rare, women sys admin
we had once an employee who was a woman, 1 in 14 years who applied for a job
it is a womanless domain, I don't understand why, he

Peter   W : to jens and Marthe, you did this gentle offer to do jobshadowing.   Somebody could follow your job day to day. I was imagining the   conversation you would have before starting the jobshadowing with   all2all. Can you imagine that someone like Marthe, young, female,   artist, feminist... what could you learn from her? And other way round:   what could you get out?

Jens : Well, i dont rreally undrstand shadow working.
Marthe:   I'll explain. I thought it was project supported by EU, that people   would do job shadowing, follow someone in its daily routine of working.
I   get some financial support to do that. Monitoring, cleaning... then I   would be able to do that later. f.ex. when you type short cut on your   computer, you would have to say it out loud.
Jens   : Well, it depends how long ! (laughs) You cannot imagine this like an   office job. I  could work on sth. You can sometiles be in the DC but   also work from the outside. We did a lot of internships, to train them,   it was a painfl parto for us, we had to show them how to maintain a   server how to understand the network, to work on the servers.
What   we did was internships, also when we had employees, we had to train   them. Painful part for us, because we had to show them how to use  shall,  understand a network, work on the servers.
We asked them to have level 1 certification to prevent any hard accidents.

internship   'learnign in the company', people paid by region of brussels for 5   months, money we had to pay for salary was always increasing, nice   system. 2 years later they left us, they wanted to change to another   company. they left us with our secrets, recipees. because what we are   doing is not so much taught in the schools, university, very  particular.  We learned by practise, by constructing it. People form  alternative  schools dealing with internet and sys admin, we don't have  profile we  look for. They come with a lot of windows knowledge we  dont't use, we  have to train them ourselves, is a lot of effort.

Gabriel   ; i have a good proposal. the intern people tanslate how  infrastructure  works. i am sys admin at medialab prado (madrid) and  interested in  infrastructure. there is now a website that shows all i  learned  [link???] .i would like to know if you have like a scale to  mesure how  you do yoru datacenter. is the government or public sector  taking care  of your DC ? does the state have a control of some points ?  f.ex. links  in between cities through highways
mix in between public and private sector

Jens   : about the city rings, what you see now is genral privately owned   connexions, most of the carriers (if you look the carrier site), there   are some that are neutral, are providing dark fiber. you have your own   network you can run on 10 gb or what you want and then you have he less   neutral carriers that provide the IP network, you can also make  peerings  (?) it is difficult to make peerings. Electricity and gas and  water  companies were only recently privatised but most of the time with  fiber  optics it is set up by private companies from start, there are  perhaps  subsidies but there are no public fiber networks anywhere.
one of the strategies to create a market?
there   are networks between universities, beginning of 90s, but they are more   and more disappearing, maybe based on less recent technologies? they  are  not so important as private owned now.
I   think the implementatio of  most of the networks was happening when   everything was already too advanced and thats why there s no goverment   ones.
there must be some of railway company, but they sell dark fiber networks to other companies

Dark   fiber : ethernet network / you just get a fiber optic connection   between 2 points, ex this building and zavcentem, you would connect  your  own equipment and you put the fibers, in zaventem you also put up  the  switch and fibers, and then you have an ethernet network of 20km  between  this room and zaventem. little connectors, stf, you can switch  in,  looks like usb-stick

there   is a lot of cables that are never used within the fiber cables, a lot   of capacity to connect, but people only use 2 fibers in the cables of   the entire fiber, the rest is dark fiber because it remains useless but   present.
13:06 Observations All2All
Divison   of responsibility at datacenters: everything under the floor is the   datacenters responsibility, but everthing that enters into the rack is   All2All responsibility. Remote monitoring ensures All2All doesn't have   to visit often. Working on disks, replacing disks and setting up a new   server requires to physically go there. For switching on and off   machines, it can be done remotely, hard resets. Its not a place for   humans, its noisy, electromagnetic fields, hot air, no chairs or   tables... it's for machines. Maintaince is done in order of importance:   first network and keep machines running, then little problems on   software level, virusses that get introduced by clients. 

Datacenters   are one of the most basic levels of our network infrastructures, there   are different types with different services, some provide only   electricity and space, you have to get your own dataconnection. Some  are  tainted (telecom owned), it's difficult to get the bandwidth you  want.  They don't always provide the connection speed that was agreed  upon.  Also safety is not always great. Switching datacenter is an  incredibly  big job, so you can end up in a dependant position easily,  simply  because you want to avoid moving at all cost. You rely on  datacenters  because in domestic environment you have to take too many  factors into  account for uptime. Unpredictable things from fires to  people going  berserk attacking machines. On a small scale it is  possible, but on  larger scale not. So hosting services are dependent on  data centers,  Client is not King /klant is geen koning.

Training   employees and interns was painful process for All2All (3 ppl). Level 1   linux certification to start with. When ppl leave they leave with  their  secrets and recipes. Is knowledge transfer possible for places  like  All2All? It seems too time consuming and also sensitive (trade   "secrets"/recipes). 

State   control over infrastructure? Most connections are privately owned.   There are some neutral carriers that offer dark fiber, unused fiber   optic connections. Less neutral carriers that let you use their  existing  network. Is real neutrality possible? Every infrastructure is   engineered with an agenda. 


1,5% of the world consumption of electricity comes from datacenters. 

server   at home is one thing, possible and desirable, but living in a   datacenter is not possible for human (agressive for the body on many   levels : noise, electrosmoke, electromagnetic field, heat) (there's no   chairs, tables). what would it mean in terms of data   production/consumption if all the internet was home-hosted ? what would   that changed in terms of access ?

what   about responsabilities in home servers ? what about autonomy ? would   there be a change in law for instance ? at least about practices

remote : in/visibility

datacenters   at the periphery of the city most of the time (the ones inside are   telecom-owned). fiberoptics under the motorways, so that was it was  more  difficult to be in the city. therefore consequences in terms of   urbanism :  metaphors of the cloud as someplace else without impact   abund, but the cloud and other services in datacenters participate   actively in shaping the urban and periurban landscapes. if home-hosting   would become massive, it might change how and where electricity would  be  created (is it possible and/or desirable ?). 
it's   less and less power-demanding (than a few years ago) to run a   datacenter (=host data), but the amount of data has also grown   exponential. 

"cages"   : internet services : cage within cage within cage. like a matrioschka   made of cages. are we all only cleaning cages when we tend upon our   servers/data/exchange ? or can we articulate caring with emancipation   (and how do we do that practically) ?

only men are doing cleaning service in the data center.

Femke : thank you, now let's talk around coffee.

14:17   An: Food is the chemical binding of all Constant events. We're very   happy with our excellent cook Guillaume APLAUSE!!!!!!!! presents for  the  team :)

Baris and Wendy online 
hey, me, too! - asli
Movement against state controlled internet (Remote from Turkey)
Filtering, state control, blocking of content, monitoring of communication in Turkey. http://www.alternatifbilisim.org/wiki/English
Wendy   wrote them to invite them to jonctions as a stratement about the uses   of technology in these kinds of situation. lots of people built tunnels   in Turkey in the last years. difficulties to get visas to travel.
Last   friday we tried to connect to Istanbul but we got stuck in VoIP config   issues in Jitsi. On the other side of the line there is Asli Telli. http://aslitelli.tumblr.com  http://about.me/asli_telli  occupy gezi Her research & interests : open free source technology, diy
14:33   Wendy is setting up a Jit.si connection with Asli. She can hear us, we   can hear her (so far everything is great) but then we need to output  on  the speakers which takes a bit of time.
14:39   Femke proposes to switch to her presentation, 1 minute to prepare and   then comes Geraldines presentation and hopefully then we'll have solved   the connection problem with Turkey. In any case we will include Asli's   voice into the video documentation somehow. 
14:42 mini break
14:50 Lecture: Fathers of the Internet
Only   notes, the beginning of something that I think is really important. It   doesn't matter if I'm doing it or someone else but it's about  something  important that is happening really nearby.
bash fathers
fathers of the internet started in a long figure in Paul Otlet, obscure figure at that time. "father of information science". 

14:55 FEMKE on Paul Otlet and Google  
(for NOTETAKERS ONLY, the link to Femke's ongoing research : https://gitorious.org/fathers-of-the-internet)

I'm going to share notes with you.
We need to talk about this and it's happening nearby.
It   started from a longtime interest in Paul Otlet. I first discovered him   when I moved to Brussels. Many of my Belgian friends didn't know him  at  all. 
I would like to start with a parental warning by someone else. Alex Wright who wrote a text on Otlet on an English website (http://www.transcriptsearch.com.es/id/FwO4kJhfG8U . See alsohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwO4kJhfG8U).   Planned obsolesence: always focused on the next new thing, so we lose   sight of the historical context. We're not living through some special   period where everything is new all the time, we need to situate   ourselves in a historical context. 
Many beards in this presentation (while showing a photo of Otlet).
 Otlet   understood that in an age of information the connections between   materials were more important than the materials themselves. He   developed a system of library cards to access information. Quote: "from   individual books, collective books are created. Instead of an   encyclopedia limited and determined by a certain date, the universal   book of knowledge would be an unlimited work, always up to date always   growing... "

"knowledge is the genesis of things. their genetics form the basis of pres "
Traite sur la documentation, available online! :) here : http://lib.ugent.be/fulltxt/handle/1854/5612/Traite_de_documentation_ocr.pdf

tech   : based on planned obsolescence so tendency to lose history about  that.  we can understand the technology. info on "boxes and arrows" (a  blog)
Paul   Otlet was very interested in documentation, the age of information :   the relation to the materials is more important that the materal   instead. He invented the library card.
picture : the last women to see in the presentation

from different books, one book is created. synthesizes.
"knowledge is the genesis of things. their genetics form the basis of pres ??"

he   understood very well that informtion is not about cold words passing   thru the tubes, but also images, posters... a system to connect all   these types of information. picture : prototype for such a device
He   was thinking up systems to connect all different types of information,   texts, images, sound recordings, ... Photo of an installation where  you  could listen, look, read... Melvil Dewey is one of the more famous   "fathers", Otlet was aware of Dewey, he tries to convince him to take  on  his standard to communicate with him and his system. 1903   correspondance from Otlet to Dewey. Decimal classification. 1912/1913   his enterprise (accepting paid searches to his database, turning out   millions of cards, selling them internationally, a true enterprise).   Lobying and running his business.

melvil dewey : the natural father

dewey   system for decimal library system. otlet knew of dewey but tried to   convince dewey to find a way to communicate btw systems. 
po had two sons. he was making cards, paid searches to his database.
he was from a bourgeois family but wanted to make it happen, so he did from business to lobbying to establish his system.
He   had an amazing building for exhibitions that has now turned into a car   museum. But this shows he was doing really well, big prestigious   building. Then the war started and both his sons were called to  service.  He lost his youngest son. Otlet published la fin de la guerre  with a  world charter of human rights as the basis for an international   federation of states. (From: The universe of information). 
he was friend with lafontaine, that got a nobel prize and he invested all his nobel prize in his project
Elio   di Rupo mayor of Mons and finds out these cards of Otlet are still in   Brussels. He puts them in a department store where they can be  cherished  and looked at. 
video : Boyd Rayward wrote the first bio of paul otlet filmed in po museum in mons
Mondaneum in Mons archive of Otlet. Boyd finds out that many of Otlets cards are still in Brussels and writes about them. 
15:08   Wendy installs speakers while we're staring at a big blue globe on the   projection. A painting of what ppl abroad fantasized what Otlet was   working on.
the   scenography was done by Peeter/Schuitten who are illustrators, and  this  is how the museum looked until recently. from a kind of treasure  found  by a mayor, it was preserved but not very vivid.
Heritage   was preserved but not in a vivid way, only rescued from further decay.   Otlet was still a well kept secret, at least internationally. Ppl   started looking into him though, more interest was raised. 

po : becoming a forgotten forefather
Alex Wright writes about him. meta applications discover links between documents but this is an untransparent process. Algorythms :) used in search engines. Would Otlet's web have turned out differently? 
quote   : "Would Otlet’s Web have turned out any differently?  We may yet find   out.   With the advent of the Semantic Web and related technologies   like  RDF/RSS, FOAF, and ontologies, we are moving towards an   environment  where social context is becoming just as important as   topical content.   Otlet’s vision holds out a tantalizing possibility:   marrying the  determinism of facets with the relativism of social   networks."
Femke   Snelting, Nicolas Malevé, Peter Westenberg and Laurence Rassel visit   the Mundaneum. The museum doesn't 'interface' its treasures to the   audience, no explanations, no way to discover, no touching, etc. 
Peter blog routes routines (https://archive.org/details/BalearicRoutesRoutines
2007   : announce in the press for a company "crystal computing" data centers   (a smokescreen company for google). elio di rupo & other  politicians  had to keep it a secret, because google would have stoped  this  operation if it has been known that they were opening a datacenter  in  belgium. 
The   smallest hitch would perhaps make Google pull out of the deal, so   everthing was done to make sure things remained smooth and undercover. 
discours d'elio di rupo pour l'ouverture de google : "désir régional de s'en sortir". "google open day" 
picture of king albert + di rupo visiting google
King   Albert visits Google. Jean Duplius: a confused parent. Back to   Mundaneum, former department store used as showcase for Otlets work  with  closed drawers and cybercafe. http://www.mundaneum.orgDi   Rupo announced the official collaboration between Mundaneum and  Google.  A partnership. The information society didns't start in the 70s  and  80s, it was made in the mind of visionaries, Otlet and Lafontaine.  They  saw how Information would be the black gold of the next  centuries.  (march 2013 di Rupo). "For Google it is exiting to  rediscover our own  roots". Video of director of Mundaneum speaking  about how an  impoverished area will be revived together with partner  Google, through a  common language, invented by Otlet. 
information as the black gold of the next centuries (replacing mining by datamining)
capture   partielle de la vidéo : tenter la conversion industrielle vers des   choses plus précises et ça passe par le grand projet de 2015, Mons   capitale européenne culturelle de 2015, relancer la dynamique  culturelle  et sociale. google est là pour préserver la culture. po et  hl ont  essayé de classer l'information du monde entier pour la rendre   accessible à tous. 100 ans le 10 décembre pour le centernaire du prix   nobel de la paix à lafontaine.

Preparing   for Mons 2015 because Mons will be cultural capital of Europe that   year, supported by Google. Video made by local company presenting Mons   2015. Un Google en papier. Making information accesible so that  everyone  has access lol.Shedding light on heritage using new technology  is what  Mons 2015 is about. Bridging old industries with future  industries.  Helping artists working with technology, where future meets  technology.  Here at the Mundaneum, we are at the heart of this system.  1000 jobs  created. Reshaping image of the city, modest but counting  for something.
promotional video made by a company in mons
"paper google" one hundred year ago
"grand écart entre les grands artistes d'hier et les technologies d'aujourd'hui"
"vers l'industirie du futur" 
"aider les artistes à s'approrprier les technologies"
"city branding"
O:men talk in the video, and women smile
O An : une ville qui compte, littéralement, 0 1 

mundaneum started to have new exhibition
critique : brin & page are not otlet & lafontaine : a blog post "mémoire souillée"
picture of the recently opened of the google cultural institute. google art project became the google art institute http://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/project/art-project
Juxtaposition   of Otlet and Lafontaine and Larry page and Sergei Brin. The memory of   Otlet is made dirty by "his" own Mundaneum. Mundaneum started their own   online exhibition,with Google, not downloadable, curation not very   interesting (copy pasting of existing sources). 
Museum   of the holocaust in jerusalem makes statement that basically it's not   realistic to refuse partnerships with companies like Google, only in   fairytales can you remain independent
lots   of press about the datacenter in belgium by google - promotional video   par ex about the water supply in the datacenter : using the water of  the  canal as a natural cooling of the datacenter. 
Use   of the water of the canal is used as a natural cooling system for the   Datacenter. No footage of the actual datacenter. They show in a video   the way the water of the canal is channeled to a distribution center. 
Google   starts to publish interviews with local workers, because ppl in  Belgium  are interested in job creation. Laughing ppl in video, shiny  happy  ppl. 
Tax avoiding schemes of Google come to light in Britain and also the amount of jobs created is not as promissed. 
the promise of job had not happenned - a 5 Million euros incentive to go to belgium was given to google
last father is vinton cerf
Vincent   Cerf, a father knows best. When things went sour in the south, Google   and Mundaneum decided it was a good idea to get the "father" to  Belgium.  Video of Cerf talking about his visit, collaboration between  university  of Gent, Mundaneum and Google. Introduction of Cerf:  Evangelist de  l'internet de Google. Google glasses but no working  translation.
video in vint cerf as a address "from one founding father of the internet"
video de démonstration des google glass de vint cerf
Femke will be working on this and invites ppl to contribute/talk about this.
1993 it already started, it's been carefully planned for over 15 years, starting with the moving of the archive to Mons.
yves   : mons plan prepared for like 15 ans. the ruler of wallonia stealing   the money to prepare mons cultural capital.corruption by all of these   people/companies. 
f : the moving of the archive is the first step in 1993
marie-françoise   : visit from the prime minister in her organisation/archive.  approached  by microsoft.it's difficult to operate with the cuts. we  want to show  that women can work in those professions so we have to  accept
geraldine   : friedrich hayek invented information is the new black gold   neoliberalist thinking linked to these developments, shared philosophies
gijs : maybe there's no so much difference btw google & po as he made cards and did paid research
Femke:   glad you ask this. It is not a story about the good and the bad guys.   Otlet was a man with very interesting ideas. It is not surprising that   Google thinks of him as a father, beautiful  find. The contrast is in   Otlets expanded library ideas and Cerf coming on stage with Google   glasses and headphones not working. lafontaine is a different figure  and  it's very problematic to add him in the mix. quite bizarre. look  at  otlet as what he did in putting materials together, it's beautiful,  and  there's more and more stories as otlet as an entrepreneur, as a  google  on paper created.
Google   on paper is how Mundaneum is portrayed now, Otlet as the entrepreneur.   This gives a false image. We can't give away the cultural heritage for   any amount of euros or 110 (maybe) jobs.
wendy : henri lafontaine was very important for women lib, he'll be on public domain day in january2014
julia ; interesting text i found about adopting genealogy in neo-liberalism
mara   : mostly about colonizing europe. microsoft are becoming   desesperate.monopoly on source code has been circumvented by open   source, pushing for patents now... lobying against monopoly of Google.
femke : tragedy of europeana. very saddening to see the state of such a project promoted as an alternative.
yves   : it's interesting to see how the story of otlet has been written, he   was before called before the internet of paper and now google on paper.
Femke   is not aware of any in depth independent research being done into   Otlet. She does think it is super important that this is done outside  of  the Mundaneum, because the Mundaneum, as the angry guy in the video   stated, is messing up its own heritage. 
Gijs   gets to ask the last quesion. Are they putting effort into digitizing   the cards? Only one third of the archive is still there, not a complete   system. No way you can reconstruct. The archive of the feminist  movement  in belgium, the commons movement, large poster archive, early  films,  ... It looks like Google is scanning things, but it's not clear  what is  being done atm. 

marthe's advice : see the documentary on paul otlet : the man who tried to classify the world

16:20 geraldine juarez
femke: last speaker! we've been following  your work for quite a while, very happy to have you!
geraldine: I present 3 things:
She will present 3 things today: F.A.T. (http://fffff.at   ) F.A.T. is a bunch of ppl interested in open source, pop culture,   internet. they believe in the potential of open source, but are like   "bad vegetarians" sometimes. Integrating all the good parts of open   source. 5 years ago when they started, open source was not so corrupted   as it is now. We really believed in publishing, getting message out,   inspiring ppl. 
Fast overview of projects:
- fuck flickr is a software you can install on your server and host your own data.http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/
- J3Dilla: http://fffff.at/j3dilla/   when makerbot sold their company, they sold the database of people   sharing online their 3d models too, and it's not acceptable. she did   simple shell script, run it in a folder and you have stl-models   accessible in 3D
- IP Donor, project by Evan Roth: when you die you give all your intellectual property to the public domain http://ni9e.com/public_domain_donor.php
- Kopyfamo' http://fffff.at/kopyfamo/   a project where one can add watermarking logos from press agencies   ((AFP,  reuters, getty...) on one's images to add credibility.
- FuckGoogle http://fffff.at/fuck-google/   : Active beef with google. Build a fake google streetcar, set up a lab   and here a video of what happened. gps tracker on the "googlecar", ppl   started reporting that there was a googlecar that was tracked by a  group  of artists. Construction of the fake car in Berlin. Transmediale.  Ppl  take photos of the car, they stop in the middle of the road,  nobody  minds, ppl LOVE Google. Ppl dropping their pants. Ppl shouting  "fuck you  google" Someone from FAT kicks out the driver, a bypasser  starts  helping out the fake Google driver. Fuck Google: no corportation  should  be trusted with THIS much of our data.
in transmediale, we did not get the price, event was sponsored by google
- Social ID-bureau: ID card by Tobias Leingruber http://fbbureau.com/
- Compusock by Becky Stern : Big Hoody over head and screen to enter password. Safety first :) http://www.instructables.com/id/Laptop-Compubody-Sock/
-   Another Googlecar project. Selfdriving car. New York. It was driven   with the knees, not a real self driven car. Ppl were tweeting about it,   photographing. Someone from Google asks for a ride. 
someon driiving google car of FAT, were doing the spinning with the cqr, guy from Google asked for ride in the car
car spinning and noone protested
- Katsu made zuckerberg posters all over manhattan
- 10 guys I would never fuck http://guysiwouldnevereverfuck.tumblr.com/   : all guys with google glasses, many arguments why google glasses is   not what we need, but it also makes people unattractive, I wanted to   make clear that google glasses does that for you: not being attractive

Between fun and politics
we made a book: another way to spread what we do : The F.A.T. Manual http://www.linkartcenter.eu/public/editions/The_FAT_Manual_Link_Editions_2013.pdf
tried 3 times, 3rd time we made it, put it together in 6 months
you can download it for free on our website, also lulu and Moo (buy)
many people of fat don't work there all the time
FAT is a place to experiment but we don't always work in FAT.

O   : relationships between pop culture & open source ? how does it go   beyond a good laugh ? does it change the way we use technology &   interact socially ? not that it is bad to have a laugh. but very mixed   feeling about FAT.

Women_in_tech   project : if we google things about women in tech is a bunch of   intiatives for young girls, women that work in IT, or grown up women   that call themselves girls bt aren't. 
specific   clas related with IT that somehow say 'tech' vs 'technology',   automatically idea that software and co is per se ok:   techno-determinologist? is not critical. They don't care about anything   else than identity, we need to talk more about class to 
it needs to be about humans that have more power, but not through work
work   is not empowering, work in IT, code for work, be an entrepreneur...  why  do we talk about women in tech, insteead of technolgoy, and why  not  also the workers that create technology instead of work with it.
new project I'm starting : Going to the top. 
image of Marissa Mayer, CEO Yahoo
ideal of women in tech: you get to very powerful position
David   Cameron, cutting budgets for education, kicking imigrants out of UK,   neoliberal, he says he's a feminist, he says he respects women - this  is  gender bait
easy to talk about liberation of women
Liberation through work is not real liberation, working all the time is not going to change society = FAILMINISM not feminism. 
I want to know why tech is different from technology, why only certain technologies are called tech
logic:   bunch of data, abandoned archives, let's create jobs, make people work   & everybody works equally - infocentrism that leads to labour tech
Infracentrism + genderbait = women in tech
Equality   is not in numbers but in content, what are we equal in? In numbers?   David Cameron and Marissa Mayer aren't interested in equality for all  as  in ALL
'we need more women & tech in conferences', what conferences?
I propose to call them FAILMINISTS, their ideas should be rejected: no men or women will end up somewhere thorugh only work
New feminisms is only about personal sotires, experiences
Politics   are out of control, specific ideology going on, talking about personal   experiences I don't know where it challenges this 

She   is doing a repository of gifs, of women doing manual labour. One nice   example of a worker in a shoefactory in mexico, worker with mask of   unicorn as symbol of unisex
gifs -> perfect medium to replicate this cycle of manufacture
not   interested in any image of women in intellectual work but labour:   constructing something, like trains and workshops (marquiladora: they   manufacture tennis shoes, cloths)
--> esthaetics of tumblr, tech-audience
Repository so send over gifs! Bigger is better
She wants to present it 
anything we do will transform nature
barber pole: made with tupper wares and a motor showing animated gifs of women in tech repos.

O   : the power/work narrative for women is not empowering, women are used   as tokens. work has many layers as a term, and Geraldine's approach   address only some of them, and about specific types of work within IT. 
aesthetics   issue : tumblr aesthetics... ok it's image, and it's fun, but how does   it go further to understand power issues, class issues, etc. to   understand how computers are made, with which kind of genealogies,   ideologies

Book 'Fortunes of feminism' : about managers & careers, helping liberalism go easy with help of women
working with markets of materials, leech from them: use images to reveal how no-sense is produced
Nancy Fraser 
jewelry with Google and Facebooks nasdaq statistics http://www.simple-mechanisms.com/output/market-swag/
- burning bitcoins hello bitcoin http://www.simple-mechanisms.com/output/hello-bitcoin/
same   thing in cool format, decentralized system, is just speculation, they   are the ones that win. I get mini-bitcoins and burn them
Money is money because you can burn it not because you can spend it, it operates the same way.
- Wealth transfer http://www.simple-mechanisms.com/output/wealth-transfer/:   high frequency crashes since 2010 because robots trade the market,   programmed to crash, affected by exterior things... first crash took a   year to understand what happened, machines could not keep up with   connection; 2nd nightmare, more money exported that there was, 3rd one   bomb in whitehouse, obama was injured, that made the market crash
-> 3 distinctive patterns to crash markets
Crash patterns drawings into software and create music with it, adding beats to make it pleasant to listen to, not just noise.

17:03   Julia: Aron ? films of very succesful women portrayed by famous   actresses, f.ex. Margaret Thatcher protrayed as feminists, parallel
interesting distinction between labour, politics, biology -- women should enter politics, not huge machine
Do you think we can escape gender bait? 
Geraldine:   I don't know if we can escape from that... maybe politics that aren't   sexy are our only option. Artistic capitalistic critiques. Genderbait,   you just need to reject that. Everytime someone tries to portrait   margeret Thatcher as a feminist, reject that. Just because we use   computers we are girls in tech... Ignoring identity politics. Carreer,   goals, the need to work to generate more money.Why don't we turn all  the  girls in Mexico into Entrepreneurs! Well, why don't we let them go  to  school first? 
EU-campaign with lipsticks and superslim women: Science it's a girls thing. Scientific way of looking at lipstick. 
Marie-Francoise   (IF3 cfr notes Friday morning): The first thing I wanted to say was   that you come from a different world. it's very difficult... Our  project  is to provide work for women who need money. To provide  education.  we're survivors, there used to be much more centres like  that It's a  paradox. Girls in tech. We train about 150 - 200 women,  from webmasters  to women who have no education training them to become  saleswomen in  shops. We trian them to sell computers, telephony, etc.  they are women  in tech. Labour is important. It is the reality. When  Neelie Kroes came  to visit our center (she wan't invited) we are the  only successfull  women only organisation that trains women to enter the  tech market. She  was not a woman in tech, seemed rather confused. I  wouldn't necesarily  call her a feminist, but she is probably taking  more interest in the  place women take in society. Her role is not  imaginative, she is not a  revolutionary she is a commisioner. 
Reni   : there is one training center in graz, 100% microsoft now, used to be   small percentage open source. women working there are feminists,   conscious they're preparing people for horrible labour market depending   on tools such as microsoft. 
Geraldine: I don't think work is bad per se
 notes an during femke's talk
How does the law affect your service ? Humans and machines
Turkish   tunnelers could not be here because of visa problems.... they are here   with virtual tele presentationvs how)àç software does affect your life  ?  PZI-student told over lunch he has been kicked out of the school for  a  year because of an error in the software ad,in syste, of the school
-> could be a parallel storyline

no access possible through the net

femke forgotten fathers
'parrental warning'
° father of information science
connections more important than bodies themselves /material

Otlet, traite sur la documentation – universal decimal system
information is not only text – images, voice, drawings, energy(?)
Melvil Dewey – Dewey system

connect systems – languages-houses-tunnels-streets
LAW, SOFTWARE, WAR influences our lives : Otlet, La fin de la Guerre
2 sons go to war
- house for expo & installation
Otlet proposes system to write and rewrite history/biographies
cfr 1984
different people narrating biographies
mytholigsation/forgetting procedures vs live-note taking
attention of 1 person -> rebirth !

Museum without information/legends
maskerade   / tunneling in communication for installment of google in mons :   chrystal computing 'diplomatic communications' otherwise google would   have canceled the contract !
Elio Di Rupo is now prime minister of Belgium

--> can this be our format of re-writing the flossmanual ?
Using tunnels, forgetting, playing with lack of information, myths, rebirths, forgetting strategies
'host & hosting'

Jean Duplius, confused parent
replacing mining by datamining !!!

through culture and information reviving a pover region, as socialists with commercial company google ; having a common language
zoekmachine op papier

individuals of 20th century as heroes & identifications

Amit Soot
Google Cultural Institute, Google Art /MuseuM & exhibitions
'we donùt live in that kind of world
2013 2nd datacenter, for the first time --- institutional recognition

protest   UK : google does not pay taxes, not keeping their promises (amount of   jobs, other not so clear) – not the subsidies 5 millions euro

evangeliste, it becomes religious
but hey, no translation from him / publicity --> back to the beginning : relationships between bodies
'moving of the archive' wiping out the real story : it was created in brussels

ideals vs ideology 1984 – rewriting history 'we've found the father' – till 2015
'internet of paper' vs 'google of paper' after neglect period of 60 years
otlet searching for body his son ~ google search machine
google colonizing world
vs europeana : copyrights law have won the battle
2nd cultural city : riga, microsoft center --- nono

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